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See and blind and hear and deaf
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MJKuelker
2003-11-24 16:59:21 UTC
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"See and blind and hear and deaf."

It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).

What other examples are there?

I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly. A
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.

- mjk
C***@webtv.net
2003-11-24 17:28:23 UTC
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that's interesting! I've had quite a few discussions about this as
well, and the majority of the times have agreed that it refers to the
fact that on the day of judgement those who were blind will
see.....those who were deaf shall hear.

and conversely. those who think they see are blind, and those who think
they hear do not.

much respect,

Crystal
rlam
2003-11-24 18:27:20 UTC
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mind yu own business...
--
one, peace, roots-ee
http://thearkband.com
Post by C***@webtv.net
that's interesting! I've had quite a few discussions about this as
well, and the majority of the times have agreed that it refers to the
fact that on the day of judgement those who were blind will
see.....those who were deaf shall hear.
and conversely. those who think they see are blind, and those who think
they hear do not.
much respect,
Crystal
Northstar
2003-11-24 17:45:51 UTC
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So far as I know it means 'mind your own business and don't be chatting
about other people's business' ... Jackie Paris put out a 12" in 1977
called 'see & blind'
Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly. A
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
souljah
2003-11-24 20:18:45 UTC
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Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly. A
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
Meaning "See no evil, hear no evil" according to
http://propaganda.ch/reggae/Patois.htm#Phrases%20or%20Proverbs

Other recordings:
Mykal Roze, "See And Blind", 1997, on Heartbeat album "Dance Wicked"
Derrick Morgan, "See And Blind", 196?, on 2003 Trojan album "Moon Hop:
Best Of The Early Years 1960 - '69"
Gladiators, "See And Blind", 1989, on Heartbeat album "A Whole Heap"
Horace Andy, "See And Blind", 1998, on Heartbeat album "See And Blind"

Ank J Spear, (check http://www.iota.tv/sv/index.html ) uses a whole
lot of proverbs in his: "Old Time Saying"

Actions speak louder than words
You need to watch your verbs
Too many nouns and pronouns are hurting my nerves
Creep before you walk and listen before you talk
Speak when you are spoken to
And answer when you are call

Otherwise you might have a great fall
The light within the darkness will overcome all
Deep is the Ocean shallow is the brook
Sometimes it's better to take another look
Over the land and under the Seas
Everywhere you look there is an image of me

Sticks and stones many used to break bones
The wisdom of the fool is the seed to feed the multitude
One hand washes the next but what to do when one is vex
Once a man and twice a child this is the cycle of the endless mile
Nip it in the bud otherwise the struggle will never done
Long run short catch so many fighting... what's next

Nothing new under the sun... some just love to play with guns
Life is an illusion of people having fun... some have nowhere to run
What no good a morning will-not be good at night
No need to worry... stresses or fight
One need only to focus on their might
The reward will be great so will the delights

See and blind hear and deaf
Little ones no need to worry, no need to stress
Once you doing your best its easy to pass life's test
When your time come you better know how to flexes
Watch your mouth and don't get vex,
Sometimes you may need to take a rest

Take care,

--
Each One Teach One -
"Courage is not the absence of fear,
but the triumph over it." Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela

Souljah - ***@tomaatnet.nl
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Collie Burns
2003-11-24 20:25:00 UTC
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This proverb can also be heard on the Twinkle Brothers tune "Miss Labba
Labba" (Old Time Something album). It is used in the, "Mind your own
business" sense.


--Jeremy
Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly. A
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
Filthy Rich
2003-11-24 22:14:09 UTC
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And what a great compilation Old Time Something album! Even though
much of it is dubbed from vinyl there are some simply massive
outstanding tracks. Well worth getting......


On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:25:00 -0800, Collie Burns
Post by Collie Burns
This proverb can also be heard on the Twinkle Brothers tune "Miss Labba
Labba" (Old Time Something album). It is used in the, "Mind your own
business" sense.
--Jeremy
Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly. A
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
Filthy Rich
Music House
MJKuelker
2003-11-25 01:35:02 UTC
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Since posting the original query, I consulted Roots Knotty Roots, the Jamaican
discography, and found two other titles:

* Derrick Morgan's "See and Blind" on the Beverly's label, 1962
* Errol Bailey's "See and Blind" on GG's

I don't know these particular songs and am only intuiting that they include the
full proverb.

- mjk
jah bill
2003-11-25 07:14:14 UTC
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i thought it was a comment on the ignorance of people: they see yet they are
blind, they hear yet they are deaf. sort of describes the state of, for
instance, america today (and not just today might i add)...

--


one love
rasta 4 I
jah bill
Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
I'm picking up this up after finding Anand Prahlad's _Reggae Wisdom: Proverbs
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly.
A
Post by MJKuelker
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and hear
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
Erik T
2003-11-28 20:42:46 UTC
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Like the Prince Far I tune, He Who Have Eyes Let Him See, on some Pressure
Sounds comp...
Post by jah bill
i thought it was a comment on the ignorance of people: they see yet they are
blind, they hear yet they are deaf. sort of describes the state of, for
instance, america today (and not just today might i add)...
--
one love
rasta 4 I
jah bill
Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations'
"See
Post by MJKuelker
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
Proverbs
Post by MJKuelker
in Jamaican Music_, where this proverb is discussed -- but only briefly.
A
Post by MJKuelker
friend of mine in JA recently reasoned with me saying, "See and blind and
hear
Post by MJKuelker
and deaf no more" -- in other words, one must speak out.
- mjk
Jesse I
2003-11-25 14:19:36 UTC
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Post by MJKuelker
"See and blind and hear and deaf."
It's a Jamaican proverb which is included in a number of reggae songs: The
Itals' "Blood" (Easy to Catch album), Johnny Osbourne and the Sensations' "See
and Blind" and Bunny Wailer's "See and Blind" (Gumption LP).
What other examples are there?
Assassin has a solid tune out currently with this proverb as the title
and chorus. Also a wicked bootleg of it doing the rounds on RMC 7" over
the hiphop Jump Off riddim.
--
--- Jesse I --- Chant Down Babylon
***@cnl.com.au Melbourne, Australia
http://www.chantdown.com 106.7 PBS FM / Sat 3-5pm
Sensi Tiger
2003-11-26 16:52:11 UTC
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Post by MJKuelker
What other examples are there?
Junior Byles - Auntie Lulu
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